[eal-bilingual] to set or stream EAL students?

This is obvious for lots of reasons - social and academic.
However one reason why it often doesn't happen is because top
sets are full, and pupils already placed in those sets can't be moved out to
make room for new arrivals. Has anyone found a way round this?

Maureen Biddiscombe

-----Original Message-----
From: eal-bilingual-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
[mailto:eal-bilingual-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Kaur Sukhwant
Sent: 25 April 2008 09:05
To: For practitioners involved in teaching pupils from ethnic
andlinguisticminorities
Subject: Re: [eal-bilingual] to set or stream EAL students?

The CRE (as was)in it's Race Relations Amendment Act - Guide for Schools
booklet p.12 cites a positive school practice scenario entiltled
'Revising Failing Ploicies' & goes on to advocate the practice of
'putting pupils who arrive after the start of the academic year,
including those with EAL, automatically in the top set, until their
abilities  could be assessed.' It goes on to say 'the school's
monitoring data revealed that minority ethnic and refugee pupils
received better assesments & attainment levels improved noticeably after
the policy was changed'.

I often cite this to schools.  Hope this helps you.

Sukhwant Kaur

Sukhwant Kaur (Miss)
Team Leader
Minority Ethnic Achievement Team
The Priory Centre
Priory Road 
Hull 
HU5 5RU

Telephone: 01482 616631
Fax: 01482 616518
Email: sukhwant.kaur at hullcc.gov.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: eal-bilingual-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
[mailto:eal-bilingual-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Gordon
Ward
Sent: 24 April 2008 18:30
To: For practitioners involved in teaching pupils from ethnic
andlinguisticminorities
Subject: Re: [eal-bilingual] to set or stream EAL students?

Hi Paul

I totally agree with you - but I know of no research that has shown this
to 
be true - do you?
Such research would be helpful when talking to colleagues

cheers
Gordon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Butcher Paul" <paul.butcher at peterborough.gov.uk>
To: "For practitioners involved in teaching pupils from ethnic 
andlinguisticminorities" <eal-bilingual at lists.becta.org.uk>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [eal-bilingual] to set or stream EAL students?

Joy
You are right and the school is wrong.
Steaming is generally bad for EAL pupils, setting is better, and mixed
ability would be even better

Paul Butcher
Senior Ethnic Minority Achievement Consultant
Learning
Children's Services
165a Cromwell Road
Peterborough PE1 2EL

-----Original Message-----
From: eal-bilingual-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
[mailto:eal-bilingual-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Barrett,
Joy - CYP&F - Educational Effectiveness
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:44 PM
To: eal-bilingual at lists.becta.org.uk
Subject: [eal-bilingual] to set or stream EAL students?

Does anyone have any advice on the placement of EAL students, especially
new arrivals when the school (secondary) has streaming in place? With
setting I always try to negotiate a middle to higher group when it has
been difficult to really assess the student's ability in the subject -
preferring always to go for the higher sets where the models of 'good'
English should be(!).  But now one school is going over to streaming -
what are colleagues experience here and is there any academic research
in this area?

Many thanks,
joy barrett

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