[oats-sig] User with limited motor control

Hi,

Thanks Eive, you have some good points there. Differing requirements.
If I may I'll ask for more details in a while?

Steve

On 10/30/06, Eive Landin <eive.landin at sit.se> wrote:
> Hi,
> Sorry for the late feedback. I am out of office a lot now. It is frustrating sometimes.
>
> I am working with users that use (more or less controlled) on or two switches. If you are talking about "high school level" or above of the users I think that a complete, userfriendly and consistent keyboard would be the best solution combined with selection sets in e.g. SAW. On this level they need the options to navigate read and comment in many applications so they ought have good individual designed an screen keyboard layout, e.g. in SAW.
>
> For younger people this solution can also be good with a simple design in e.g. SAW and with some restrictions in the FireFox interface.
>
> I have only experiences in windows but I think that on "grown up" user level it is best to have applications completely and consistently accessed from both keyboard and mouse combined with separate adapted on screen boards.
>
> I got one experience on latest meeting with Fredrik. If an application is accessed with switches from the "inside" it is important that it can start an other application when the session ends. Otherwise the user can be lost since it is not possible (?) to have several Switch operating applications running because the Switch hardware may be occupied with on of the applications.
>
> For young and early users, however, adapted applications like the WWAAc-browser are of course valuable.
>
> /Eive
>
>
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> Från: oats-sig-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk [mailto:oats-sig-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] För Steve Lee
> Skickat: den 19 oktober 2006 11:11
> Till: OATs Project Special Interest Group
> Ämne: Re: [oats-sig] User with limited motor control
>
> Great, thanks for reminding me about the need for an open standard
> layout format, I'll stick that in the proposal.
>
> The long term goal is that this will become a general purpose tool and
> also be cross platform (Linux, Max, Windows), Firefox is stage 1.
>
> With embedded Linux you get low cost ACC hardware devices.
>
> Yes I think you've answered but it will be good to hear from others too.
>
> Steve
>
> On 10/19/06, Judge Simon <Simon.Judge at sbpct.nhs.uk> wrote:
> > It would be good if the grids were of a common standard (with SAW, The
> > Grid), or could import them. In fact, this 'd be essential...  In fact, this
> > work could be a driver for standardising the storage of this information
> > (e.g. in XML) which is shockingly not even vaguely standard at the mo,
> > meaning there is no way to port resources.  David has done some stuff on
> > suggested storage standards (in the Switch Access to Technology Resource
> > [1]).
> >
> > In fact, if it could do this, then users could use the same resources inside
> > Firefox/Thunderbird to type etc, then use SAW/Grid etc for outside... Thus
> > heading towards a browser based AAC/Access system... (sorry, getting
> > excited!).
> >
> > Accessibility Arrangements - for pointer-only-users, they'd use an on-screen
> > keyboard to type probably, they might also be able to speak (maybe a
> > seamless integration with FireVox?), er, generally with pointer-no-click
> > users they'd use a dwell clicker software (this could be built in?) such as
> > [2] - the nicer ones of these display a timer around the cursor for the
> > dwell time.  I suppose someone could also be using an eye-gaze system etc...
> >
> >
> > For people who have not got fine control they generally just get away with
> > big icons, larger dwell areas etc.  There is an anti-tremor mouse, and there
> > might be the equivalent software (can't remember, maybe not) but otherwise
> > tremor is not coped with that well...
> >
> > Is this answering the question? I'm not sure...
> >
> > The majority of the users I see are at the lower end of the input bandwidth
> > spectrum, so are generally not 2d pointer users, though I see a fair few
> > (e.g. people with MND)...
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > [1] http://tinyurl.com/f8qxk
> > [2] http://www.sensorysoftware.com/software/dwellclick/index.html
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oats-sig-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
> > [mailto:oats-sig-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Steve Lee
> > Sent: 19 October 2006 07:39
> > To: OATs Project Special Interest Group
> > Subject: [oats-sig] User with limited motor control
> >
> >
> > I want to ensure that the Mozilla accessibility work is usable by as many
> > users with limited motor control as possible. The current plan is to provide
> > grids and in application selection (using actual controls) accessible by
> > switch or pointer.
> >
> > What sort of accessibility arrangements are used by users with some ability
> > to use a pointer for onscreen 2D random access (e.g. headmouse, eyetracker).
> > What would be better than the current possibilities?
> >
> > Do you use OSK/Grids or enlarge the screen with fine pointer resolution? I
> > imagine either would be useful depending on capabilities. Are there other
> > useful techniques adaptions?
> >
> > What if tremor is a problem?
> >
> > -- Steve Lee
> > www.fullmeasure.co.uk
> >
> >
>
>
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> -- Steve Lee
> www.fullmeasure.co.uk
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