[oats-sig] "non-conscious inputs directly from your mind."

Indeed, it would be good if someone independent got hold of one and did an
unbiased comparison of it and the Cyberlink. Maybe we will if no one else
does...

S 

-----Original Message-----
From: oats-sig-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
[mailto:oats-sig-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Mats Lundälv
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:23 PM
To: OATs Project Special Interest Group
Subject: Re: [oats-sig] "non-conscious inputs directly from your mind."

Hi Stephen, Steeve, Jonathan and all,

While the price looks good - if it's for real - my sceptical experience
tells me that the claims most certainly aren't for real.

We've been through it all with CyberLink, and I suspect this will come out
pretty much the same:
This is definitely not anything close to "thought control". This is a device
that will produce a much more coarse registration of brain signals than an
ordinary EEG registration - and who has been talking about using that for
"controlling by thought"?  It is possibly something close to very gross
bio-feedback effects - nothing very new in itself - setting yourself in
gross states of relaxation and concentration/alertness - might work for some
people, but unfortunately usually not for target users with physical
disabilities. If it works, it is generally a slow and rather inefficient and
difficult way to control things, compared to other options.

The things that worked better for some users were the "additional features"
(apart from the hyped brain/thought control), that is the myo-electrical
signals from eye and face muscles, but that's not very revolutionary, is it?

But ok, an interesting toy to play around with to find out if some of its
features might be of interest for some users as an accessibility option. We
should keep our expectations on a rather low level though ;-)

Cheers,
Mats <mailto:mats.lundalv at sit.se> 

-----<oats-sig-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk> skrev: -----

	At $299 it seems a lot more attractive than an eye tracker! I wonder
if that price is for real.

	Stephen

	On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Steve Lee <steve at fullmeasure.co.uk>
wrote:

		So it has at arrived at last ;-)

		I don't know how easy it will be to control a pointer , but
a virtual
		switch-style joystick might work well.
		It should work well with Jambu as only simple gestures are
needed for
		'next' and 'activate'.

		--
		Steve Lee
		--
		Open Source Assistive Technology Software
		web: fullmeasure.co.uk
		blog: eduspaces.net/stevelee/weblog

		2008/6/22 Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd at btinternet.com>:

		> "non-conscious inputs directly from your mind."
		> http://emotiv.com/INDS_3/inds_3.html
		> article in today's NYT:
		> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/technology/08novel.html
		> cheers
		> ~:"
		> http://www.openicon.org beta in preparation....
		>
		>
		> Jonathan Chetwynd
		>
		> j.chetwynd at btinternet.com
		> http://www.openicon.org/
		>
		> +44 (0) 20 7978 1764
		>

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