[senco-forum] Not SEN

Hear, hear! I also think that dress is a form of self-expression that

Minutes before responding to this my son (15 years old) was deciding on
what to wear tomorrow to school as it is muffty day for children in
need.  He cannot decide between the white or mustard Timberland t shirt.
Trust me, it is about labels! As parents we do everything in our power
to discourage it - my husband refuses to wear any advestisment across
his chest and we banned our daughter from the FCUK label as we both felt
it was inappropriate.  I, for one, am glad of the school uniform
although I agree with Richard even that has a hierarchy. 
Viv

P.S I never forgave my Mum for buying me Wranglers when all I ever
wanted was Levis. Call me shallow!

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From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
[mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Richard
Cook
Sent: 16 November 2006 20:37
To: senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Not SEN - dress code

When I was at school I was bullied because of the school uniform - white
shirt, black trousers, black shoes and school tie.  The only thing I
wore in common was the school tie all of which came from the same
source.  My mother wouldn't buy me the Ben Sherman shirts, brougue shoes
and the trousers with the pleat down the seam (anyone remember the
name?) that the others had so I had the standard white shirt, trousers
and shoes - and was outcast accordingly.  Uniforms aren't uniform.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Kelly [mailto:mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com]
Sent: 16 November 2006 20:21
To: 'Gillian Clayton'
Cc: 'Carol Smart'; 'Richard Cook'; Janrolnick at aol.com;
senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Not SEN - dress code

That's the usual objection but the children at this school are so
unconcerned about designer labels you would be very surprised. The focus
is just not on what people are wearing, it's entirely incidental to the
teaching and learning within the school. Really!
M

-----Original Message-----
From: Gillian Clayton [mailto:jillclayton at mac.com]
Sent: 16 November 2006 08:05
To: Mary Kelly
Cc: 'Carol Smart'; 'Richard Cook'; Janrolnick at aol.com;
senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
Subject: Re: [senco-forum] Not SEN - dress code

It can be tough on those youngsters whose urge for self-expression must
be stifled according to their parents' income!  Few teenagers would want
to be publicly identifiable as unable to afford the local ideas of
styles! Jill On 16 Nov 2006, at 07:48, Mary Kelly wrote:

> Hear, hear! I also think that dress is a form of self-expression that 
> shouldn't be denied to teenagers, who are just at the time of their 
> lives when they need to experiment with "who am I?" and what group 
> they want to identify with. My children's school is migrating from a 
> non- uniformed to a uniformed school so that Year 10 and above are in 
> non-uniform. They wear their own clothes well. The younger pupils wear

> their uniform as "personalised" as possible!
> Mary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
> [mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Carol 
> Smart
> Sent: 15 November 2006 20:03
> To: 'Richard Cook'; Janrolnick at aol.com; senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
> Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Not SEN - dress code
>
> Not from me Richard - I agree with every word you said - even go 
> further if staff spent the time they do at present policing the 
> uniform policy on building relationships, greeting pupils etc, I think

> that would have an impact on teaching and learning.
> Carol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
> [mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Richard 
> Cook
> Sent: 15 November 2006 19:33
> To: Janrolnick at aol.com; senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
> Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Not SEN - dress code
>
> Personally, (and I've got my extra thick rhino skin on) I don't think 
> respect has anything to do with what you wear.  It's the quality of 
> your relationship and respect for others that earns 'respect'. I hate 
> wearing shirts, ties and suits, far rather teach in casual.  And why 
> should women teachers be allowed to wear such a range of clothing 
> where I have to wear a tie?
>
> Don't believe in 'uniform' either for that matter does it really help 
> pupils 'learn better'.  Then again I'm happy/comfortable teaching on 
> first name terms too!  And yes I have worked in this way, and yes it 
> does work, and no it doesn't become a 'fashion parade' when 'no 
> uniform' is the norm rather than a 'non-uniform' day.
>
> When my kids left school, I burnt their uniforms!
>
> Soap box moment over, I await the flak
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
> [mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk]On Behalf Of 
> Janrolnick at aol.com
> Sent: 15 November 2006 18:40
> To: senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
> Subject: [senco-forum] Not SEN - dress code
>
>
> We are having a debate at present about dress code. Some of us feel 
> male teachers should wear ties, female teachers smart trousers skirts 
> etc no jeans, combats, trainers. What happens in other schools - and 
> what happens if people do  not adhere to it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Janice Rolnick
> SENCO/AST
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