[senco-forum] A Quick Help

From my previous posting:

>From my previous posting:
"I also assess Word Processing Speed and dictation to scribe using the
Patoss data and comment on effect on language to show which is most
effective for the child."
I don't do this on all children!!! Not appropriate - let alone not enough
time!!   Only those whose writing speed puts them in the bottom 40% and I am
then assessing whether scribe or word processor is most effective for them -
sorry realized on re-reading that it was unclear.
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
[mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sharon Fawcitt
Sent: 04 October 2006 16:08
To: 'Julie Bullivant'; lucass at loretto.com; senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] A Quick Help - pse

PhAb is not age appropriate for KS4.  CTOPP is.  I have to say - due to
limited time - I have worked out which tests which are most effective in
showing up the weaknesses and provide the evidence I need in the least
amount of time.  WRAT 3 (or if buying new, I would prob use WRAT 4) for
readers - Patoss writing test for Extra Timers and Scribes.  This covers
about 75% of my AA(Access Arrangement) pupils.  You generally only need one
piece of evidence to prove the need for a particular arrangement.
Additional test data may be helpful - but I don't have time to do full
assessments on every child.  Background school screening is useful e.g NFER
and CAT scores,  

If I'm still surprised/concerned  by results or need additional evidence
then, then I might try Edinburgh 4 for extra time - very few in my
experience are slower in reading than writing.  So generally, I will have
already identified them using the Patoss writing test - however, it can be
useful when wanting several access arrangements for one child.   Then if I
am still struggling to prove my case, I have just invested in GORT 4 which
assesses reading speed, accuracy and fluency - so can be used for reader and
extra time.  I am waiting to see if this application is approved.  The CTOPP
is great diagnostic tool and good background information - but few people
seem to suggest it can be used on its own for evidence - so the other tests
have to be my priority and CTOPP is a luxury.  I also assess Word Processing
Speed and dictation to scribe using the Patoss data and comment on effect on
language to show which is most effective for the child.
Hope this helps.
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
[mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Julie Bullivant
Sent: 04 October 2006 15:42
To: lucass at loretto.com; senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
Subject: Re: [senco-forum] A Quick Help - pse

There is now a WRAT 4 and we have started using this for exam access 
arrangements. Very similar to WRAT 3 but more up to date - also 
sentence completion reading test. Also Edinburgh 4 reading, CTOPP and 
spoonerisms test from PhAB.

----Original Message----
From: lucass at loretto.com
Date: 04-Oct-2006 15:27
To: <senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk>
Subj: [senco-forum] A Quick Help - pse

Exam Access Arrangements -

I am now going to train up to assess for exams access arrangements -
yippee (school is paying - Dyslexia Action Course).

However, my exams guru is not available next term -

Questions:

1.	What is the name of the organisation that does the Exam Access
Arrangements Course please??
2.	What tests do other schools use (we usually use Ed Psych) for
Exam Access Arrangements?? - I am going to purchase TOWRE & WRAT 3 and 
I
use the PATOSS writing test.

Appreciate a few quick answers - now where did my time go!

Tks

Stuart

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