[senco-forum] b d confusion

From: gill.gray at tiscali.co.uk> To: maizie2004 at yahoo.co.uk;

All of these ideas are good .... but first it really must be established
whether the person is confusing the phonemes or not. If she can't
discriminate the phonemes no amount of knowing what the grapheme looks
like will help her, I feel.
Mary

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[mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of WrayJanice
Wray
Sent: 11 October 2006 19:43
To: Gill Gray; Maggie Downie; olanys at aol.com;
senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] b d confusion

If there is confusion between 2 things it is always best to teach them
just the one and then the other one is the other one - I use the thumb
and forefinger method - which hand do you write with - the right - ok
make a circle with thumb and forefinger and point 3rd finger straight up
- what letter do you have -  a b - so that's how you remember which is a
b - you can do it under the table, in your pocket - very discreet for
older children - and then the other one is theother one - the dJanice
WraySecondary SENCO, Herts

> From: gill.gray at tiscali.co.uk> To: maizie2004 at yahoo.co.uk;
Olanys at aol.com; senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk> Subject: Re:
[senco-forum] b d confusion> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:54:04 +0100> CC:
> > Link b to B as many children use this to avoid the issue. B is 2
blobs, b > has the top blob missing. Set off to write B but lift your
pen and air write > the top blob then complete the bottom blob.> Link d
to a as they are formed in the same way> "add a d "is good. Start to
write a then go up the stick "adding " the d > bit. So hard to explain
in words.> Curl index finger down to thumb to form a circle on both
hands Keep other > fingers straight up. You have made b...d.> Lift them
to your eyes and say b..d eyes! ( beady eyes).Useful for older > kids as
they can form the shapes under the desk to check. You read your b..d >
like any word, left to right.> For p, sorry but the pee goes down to the
loo!> Gill Gray> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maggie Downie"
<maizie2004 at yahoo.co.uk>> To: <Olanys at aol.com>;
<senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk>> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:33
PM> Subject: Re: [senco-forum] b d confusion> > > > If she isn't
confusing the  sounds then she may be forming the letters > >
incorrectly.  I have  seen a number of children who start their 'b' or
'd' > > at the top of the  ascender, get to the bottom and then can't
remember > > which way to  go...If this is the case, you could try
teaching her to form > > tthe  letters properly, concentrating on just
one at a time, ('d' starts > > with  the 'ball', 'b' starts with the
ascender) and practising writing the > > letter for a few minutes each
day, saying the sound of the letter as  she > > writes it.  However, at
her age it is quite late to be trying  to > > remediate an entreched
habit, so she may revert to 'confusion when  she's > > concentrating
more on what she is writing, than how she is  forming her > > letters>
>> >  Maggie> >> >  P.S Aly, my emails to the senco forum keep getting
bounced back to me.  I > > don't know why as it's the same address as
usual.  If you don't  get 2 of > > these, do you think you could forward
this to the forum.   I'd be very > > grateful.> >> > Olanys at aol.com
wrote:  If she confuses the sounds, then this could be an > > auditory
processing> > problem and if she confuses them when writing, this can be
an  indicator > > of visual> > processing problems. She may have both if
she does both. I  would get to > > the> > source of the problem to find
the best way to help her. If  she has pther> > processing issues she may
need referral for APD and/or Irlen > > syndrome/visual> > processing
testing as these are 2 major causes of reading and/or  spelling > >
issues,> > namely dyslexia. Processing problems are for life and need
more  than a> > worksheet or games to sort out, even if the symptom can
be sorted  that > > way.> >> >> >> > Best wishes,> > Aly> >> > Chair
Auditory  Processing Disorder in the UK/APDUK> >
www.lacewingmultimedia.com/APD.htm> > www.apduk.org> >> >> >> >> >
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