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Fw: [senco-forum] all of the grapheme/phonemes

Philip MacMillan P.Macmillan at exeter.ac.uk
Sun Aug 12 16:56:21 BST 2007

Article: Fw: [senco-forum] all of the grapheme/phonemes

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philip MacMillan" <P.Macmillan at exeter.ac.uk>
To: "Maggie Downie" <maizie2004 at yahoo.co.uk>; "Eddie Carron" 
<eddiecarron at btconnect.com>; <senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [senco-forum] all of the grapheme/phonemes


> as Philip rightly puts it, the children need to be put in a position where 
> they can teach themselves the 'real' rules and so far as I am aware, 
> no-one is doing that yet.
>
> It has been done.  See McLeod et al (2007) " Listening to myself: 
> Improving oracy and literacy among children who fall behind".  Early Child 
> Development and Care Vol 177, p. 633-644.   Also see McLeod et al (2007) 
> Giving Psychology Away". School Psychology International 28 (x), p. 1 - 
> 18.   More to come.
>
>
> Philip EP
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Maggie Downie" <maizie2004 at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "Eddie Carron" <eddiecarron at btconnect.com>; 
> <senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [senco-forum] all of the grapheme/phonemes
>
>
>> Eddie,
>>
>> What are the 'real' rules and why can't SP supply/teach them?
>>
>> Maggie
>>
>> Eddie Carron <eddiecarron at btconnect.com> wrote:I know secondary SENCo who 
>> are long time enthusiasts for SP but nevertheless have young people in Yr 
>> 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 with massive reading deficits.   I need no convincing 
>> that SP is the most effective means of teaching children to read 
>> initially but I do need convincing that SP is the most effective remedial 
>> reading strategy for older poor readers. Hence my continued involvement 
>> with this age group. I support and applaud secondary school SENCo who use 
>> SP because I am very aware of its value but I am equally aware that it 
>> will not resolve all of the reading deficits in these older age 
>> groups...... as Philip rightly puts it, the children need to be put in a 
>> position where they can teach themselves the 'real' rules and so far as I 
>> am aware, no-one is doing that yet. I would love to be the first and as 
>> they say, 'Hope springs eternal!'
>>
>> Eddie C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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