[senco-forum] Re: senco-forum Digest, Vol 46, Issue 3

It's actually....

RE Foundation Stage curriculum   and Incy Wincy Spiders  - Enjoyment of rhymes , continuing a rhyming string , anticipating ending s and reftains are all in Communication Language and literacy, interest in the natural world are in Knowledge and understanding of the world (KUW)  or you can help children to make model spiders which would come under KUW in the form of "designing and making skills ". Then if you count the legs or talk about how many you need or how long they are that is Maths . Then if you all dance round like spiders that is Creative and Pysical development BUT Beware - Good practice nowadays in the Foundation Stage means observing the children and using this as the basis for planning so hopefully this lady will have done that . Why do you need to link it to the weather by the way ? Has that developed out of what the children have said or done ?
We don't need to be dominated by blasted "themes" any more unless the children want to pursue them. Good Luck . Ruthie Behan

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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:56:12 +0100
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Ah, my memory must be failing me as I only remembered the last line of
the original song. Thanks for reminding how this actually went.

David Bowles

> It's actually....

> Lovely Spaaam! Wonderful Spaaam!
> Lovely Spaaam! Wonderful Spam.

> Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
> Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
> Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.
> Spa-a-a-a-a-a-a-am.

> Lovely Spaaam! (Lovely Spam!)
> Lovely Spaaam! (Lovely Spam!)
> Lovely Spaaam!

> Spaaam, Spaaam, Spaaam, Spaaaaaam! 

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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:42:44 +0100
From: David Lane <xavier at bangor.ac.uk>
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David Bowles wrote:
> Ah, my memory must be failing me as I only remembered the last line of
> the original song. Thanks for reminding how this actually went.
> 
  and you can really refresh your memory at:
http://frogstar.com/mp3/index.asp

  CAution!  Serious time-wasting page to be found here...

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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:57:06 +0100
From: David Bowles <bowles.d at gmail.com>
Subject: [senco-forum] Underdiagnosed disorders
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Long term members of this forum know that I am diagnosed with
full-blown Tourette Syndrome (TS), though I'm fortunate in that I
don't have Coprolalia (the urge to swear uncontrollably) a TS symptom
that tends to get blown out of all proportion by the popular press.

You may also recall it was only 10 years ago I first found out I have
TS (at the grand age of 43), even though I've suffered sometimes
severe symptoms since I was a young child. How? Well one day I was
surfing the net and chanced across a reference to 'tics' and thought
'blink, blink' I do that ...and two seconds later I was staring at the
official diagnostic criteria for Tourettes Syndrome that fits me to a
'T'!

But what you may not realise is that Tourettes is not only well known
to medical science, but it's also quite common affecting up to 2% of
children before they leave school. The incidence of closely related
'transient tic disorders' (that spontaneously resolve within six
months) is even higher at around 50%. Like for example those pupils
who repeatedly drum on the desks with their fingers no matter how
often you tell them to stop.

Now a transient tic disorder may have little or no long term
significance from a clinical disease point of view -- it's a normal
temporary symptom associated with maturing neurology. But if these
symptoms are not recognised for what they are -- 'neurobehavioral
manifestations' and not thoughtless anti-social behaviour or
deliberate attempts to 'wind up teacher' -- and are reacted to (or
more often are over-reacted to) inappropriately, this has the
potential to cause a student long lasting psychological damage
including loss of self esteem; "...just don't understand why teacher
keeps picking on me, really I ain't deliberately doin nothin!".

The point I'm making here is that a great many medical conditions are
chronically undiagnosed, which is bad news for students and for the
staff who teach them. For example if you were to screen a school with
say 1,000 students TS you's likely discover around 20 students meet
the full diagnostic criteria. Resulting increased teacher awareness of
how TS symptoms manifest would serve to mitigate against applying
inappropriate behavioral modification strategies. Now don't get me
wrong, what I'm not calling for her is a countrywide screening
programme. But what would be useful is a web based educational
resource that highlights chronically undiagnosed disorders that have
potentially significant educational ramification.

Well that's what I'm working on right now, and what I'd like to know
from you good people on the Senco-Forum is what commonly
under-diagnosed or miss-diagnosed disorders you've come across that it
would be useful for your colleagues to have more awareness of, from
the point of view of their being able to provide more appropriate
support?

David Bowles

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:19:48 +0000
From: "Luisa Pinnell" <luisapinnell at hotmail.com>
Subject: [senco-forum] SENCO manager
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Hi,
has anyone used a programme called SENCO Manager? It is marketed by a 
company called Bluehills and it sounds almost too good to be true. if you 
have used it/know anyone who uses it please let me know before i spend our 
elearning credits

Thanks

Luisa

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:36:10 +0100
From: David Bowles <bowles.d at gmail.com>
Subject: [senco-forum] Underdiagnosed disorders: - for example
    Sjogren's    syndrome
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> I could go on- but perhaps this sn't waht you have in mind, David?

Actually this is exactly the sort of thing I had in mind.

Also it's not just the lesser known disorders that get missed.
Sometimes the most blatantly obvious potential explanations are
passed over because it's been assumed these must have been
addressed already.

Here I have in mind myopia (plain old shortsightedness) with the
example I came across a few years back of a year eight child who had
been Statemented for several years because she had 'problems with
concepts'. It took me less than two lessons to work out the real
problem was she couldn't see the board when seated more than six feet
behind it. Problem was the school's staff (including the Senco) were
so embarrassed at having missed this blatantly obvious explanation for
her problems they refused to do anything about this despite my
protestations!!! Incidentally this also explained her social isolation
within her tutor group -- she couldn't identify the faces of her peers
unless they stood just a few inches from her face.

Myself I've also just discovered (within the past two weeks) I have
the auto-immune disease "Sjogren's Syndrome", a disease that's often
misidentified as chronic fatigue syndrome (ME) or Lupus.

What surprises me is this disorder is comparatively common with around
4% of older adults meeting the full diagnostic criteria -- especially
women in whom it's more prevalent by a factor of nine-to-one compared
to men. However my doctor tells me only four of his patients are
diagnosed with this syndrome ...in a practice that has around 10,000
on their list.

So what about the 346 or so other patient's on his list who also have
this potentially debilitating condition and likely will never receive
the correct diagnosis? It's not as if this condition is easy to miss
as the main symptoms are chronic 'dry-eyes' and / or a 'dry-mouth'. In
women vaginal dryness is a common symptom that's all too often
miss-attributed to menopausal changes or simply 'getting older'.

Let me put this another way: If your school has around 100 staff
likely around four of them (mostly women) will have already developed
Sjogren syndrome without yet knowing it -- more if your staff are
predominantly female, despite increasingly suffering from unexplained
chronic tiredness and periodic episodes of 'brain fog' that are often
associated with this disease. Some may 'burn out' prematurely or opt
for retirement unnecessarily early -- to the detriment of their final
pensions, whereas if they'd received the right diagnosis and
treatments that can substantially alleviate the symptoms the later
half of their teaching career might have been far more enjoyable.

Another good example is ADHD, a disorder that's far more recognised
now in children but is still chronically under-diagnosed in adults.
The same goes for OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) whose symptoms
typically start manifesting as major problems for both the child and
their school from mid- to late-puberty onwards.

...but if there's a resource where teachers, parents, health-care
workers and others can easily find out about these and many other
comparatively common but nevertheless grossly under-diagnosed
disorders this could help save so much misery.

David Bowles

PS: Sjogren Syndrome can also affect children and some parents
get diagnosed after recognising they have similar symptoms to
their siblings.

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:02:00 +0100
From: "Richard Cook" <richard_cook at blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: [senco-forum] Incy wincy foundation curriculum
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Need some help

My wife is planning a foundation lesson based on Incy wincy Spider, linking
it to the weather.  Can anyone say how this links to the foundation
curriculum?

Thank you all you helpful helpful people

Richard

If you come up with this she'll love me forever (or at least until I
'forget' to empty the dishwasher!)

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:40:51 +0000
From: "Luisa Pinnell" <luisapinnell at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Incy wincy foundation curriculum
To: richard_cook at blueyonder.co.uk, senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk
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Involvement in a group activity
listen with enjoyment
write labels and captions?
describe a simple journey
use talk to connect ideas and explain what is happening
tap out repeated rhymes
experiment with ways of moving-role play

>From: "Richard Cook" <richard_cook at blueyonder.co.uk>
>To: "Senco Forum" <senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk>
>Subject: [senco-forum] Incy wincy foundation curriculum
>Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 21:02:00 +0100
>
>Need some help
>
>My wife is planning a foundation lesson based on Incy wincy Spider, linking
>it to the weather.  Can anyone say how this links to the foundation
>curriculum?
>
>Thank you all you helpful helpful people
>
>Richard
>
>If you come up with this she'll love me forever (or at least until I
>'forget' to empty the dishwasher!)
>
>
>

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:19:17 +0100
From: "Sheridan" <sheridan.sharp1 at btinternet.com>
Subject: [senco-forum] SENCO by any other name - bit of fun
To: "Mike Boyd" <mike at green43.demon.co.uk>,
    <senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk>
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Mike wrote:
Amongst the suggested or actual titles mentioned in this thread are:
Learning Support;
Inclusion Managers;
Learning Access Director;
Learning Support Manager;
Access and Inclusion Manager;
Director of Curriculum Support;
Learning Differences and Disabilities Co-ordinator;
Additional Needs Coordinator (Which may be a SENCO in Scotland).

In an attempt to avoid the term SEN aren't some of the alternative titles 
becoming rather "fancy" and obscure??  ( I'll be polite and not use the word 
pretentious because I don't think I can spell it).

Does it mean that those of us who aren't SENCOs  but can be easily 
identified with the field of SEN should change our titles too???

Hmmmmmmmm....thinks .... actually I like this idea......   I could sound 
really fancy and spectacular if  I  redid my job title.

PRECISE ERUDITION COMPLEXITY CONSULTANT .....oooooo... ahhh.....(I hear).... 
impressive !!!

I guess my line manager could be Managing Director of Precise Erudition 
Complexity Ministrations

If we're all going to abandon SEN and choose something else   (which will 
eventually go out of  favour too) surely we'll have to change the wording 
for  everything else SEN?

What other alternatives can we have for other  "things SEN? e.g. what 
alternatives do you have for :-
SEN register?
SEN Stage?
SEN Dept?

Ideas welcome....... the more pretentious the better!

Cheers

Sheridan Sharp
SpLD Tutor... oops sorry ...not any more....

PRECISE ERUDITION COMPLEXITY CONSULTANT

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:20:18 +0100
From: "Judith Stansfield" <stass at onyxnet.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Underdiagnosed disorders: -
    long-sightedness
To: "'David Bowles'" <bowles.d at gmail.com>,    "'senco-forum'"
    <senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk>
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As well as myopia, longsightedness is often undiagnosed - the child may
be seen to have 'eagle eyesight' because they can read signs etc at a
distance, but can have problems focussing on a computer screen or book
Cheers
Judith

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Sent: 02 July 2007 20:36
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Subject: [senco-forum] Underdiagnosed disorders: - for example
Sjogren'ssyndrome

> I could go on- but perhaps this sn't waht you have in mind, David?