[senco-forum] Y7 non reader

From: P.Macmillan at exeter.ac.uk> To: williamgraham at blueyonder.co.uk;

Dear All

Many thanks for those who have responded. We are now trying to disapply him 
from some NC subjects for the rest of the year for more 1:1 input.

Lorraine
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From: "barbara" <barbht at saqnet.co.uk>
To: "'WrayJanice Wray'" <jwwray14 at hotmail.com>; "'Philip MacMillan'" 
<p.macmillan at exeter.ac.uk>; "'Bill Graham'" 
<williamgraham at blueyonder.co.uk>; "'senco-forum'" 
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Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Y7 non reader

Don't agree here Janice - well not for the kid I've picked up ( group of 5
-bottom readers one side of year-approx 100+ kids each side of timetable -
all scoring 6.05- but for 4 of them I've advancd thro to silent e spelling
and to page 140+/- toe by toe for reading and onto level 2 lexia )
unfortunately the 5th of the group didn't have sound letter correspondance
nor anything else - lowsy visual memory as well as auditory memory, even
reversed u and n  and also w and m
So for me (having thrown my brickbats at his primary intervention) I'm
solemnly working my way -ignoring reversals which are improving - thro
initial consonant blends which he can sound out (as you can get enough
practice at cvcs as well this way-and I got bored with them!) and in
competitive games can approach fluency -this is going to take a long time
-my questions are was he ready for this earlier or have I just struck him at
the time when he can take this on board - when he's not behaving up to
expectations for someone who has failed for 7 years (rare as he wants to
learn but finds an hour very long!) or its an afternoon lesson
For the other 4 kids I teach at the same time I'm working my way with
digressions for syllables, segmenting etc whilst following structured phonic
progression ie what you (Janice) said as I'm only too aware that these kids
have failed forever!
Barbara ht

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[mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of WrayJanice Wray
Sent: 04 March 2007 18:24
To: Philip MacMillan; Bill Graham; senco-forum
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Y7 non reader

Yes, also forget phonics - he's been phnoiced up to the eyeballs - go for
segmenting, go for syllables, go for suffixes he'll see a lot (tion, sion)
and forget trying to spell them , just sight recgnition - make him a set of
card to use everyday at home - just to look through - 2 mins max - keep it
in memory - try the Lindamood Bell resources from the USA that's what we
used in a dyslexia centre for a non-reader in Year 6 - and lots of daily
practice -  try Electronic Library - it's fun and easy to use and
straightforward. JaniceJanice Wray Secondary SENCO, Herts

> From: P.Macmillan at exeter.ac.uk> To: williamgraham at blueyonder.co.uk;
> senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk> Subject: Re: [senco-forum] Y7 non reader>
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:41:54 +0000> CC: > > 7 years of tuition a generous
statement and still cannot read! Beware of> accepting the status quo and
leaving the problem unfixed, this will do the> pupil no favours certainly in
the long term. Find out what remedial methods> have been used to date and
then look for something very different. The> staement papers must contain
some advice surely apart from 15 hours which> would have come form the admin
not the assessors. When picking a remedial> programme make sure it is very
different to what he has tried before so look> for novelty if only to get
his interest and motivation up. Are you far away> from Exeter?> > Philip EP>
----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Graham"
<williamgraham at blueyonder.co.uk>> To: "senco-forum"
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Subject: [senco-forum] Y7 non reader> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >
From: Bill Graham> To: senco-forum> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:29 PM>
Subject: Y7 non-reader> > > Dear All> > We have in our Y7 a lad whose RA is
virtually non existant. Conseqently he's> struggling in the majority of
curriculum areas. He has a TA and his> statement says he needs 15 hrs of
support and he doesn't do French, going to> our SEN tutor instead for 3
lessons.> > His mum was quite upset (naturally) after parents evening due to
the> comments mainly about his behaviour. I have a review coming up next
week.> What do other secondary schools to do help similar pupils?> >
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