[senco-forum] Life Skills and social communication skillsinYr10/11 [Scanned]

it's the child's GP to CaMHs directly -- or GP to a peadiatrician -- who

As Brendan wrote, all forms of ASD need a medical diagnosis.  There is a
waiting list of at least 18 months in our health trust.

A (statemented) child in my former school diagnosed as on the autistic
spectrum was given a shorter form of the diagnostic test while attending a
routine visit to the paediatrician, because of this long wait - he had
multiple medical needs and had been seeing said consultant regularly for a
year or so.  He was still placed on the list for the full test, but his
extremely high score on the initial test was enough for the paediatrician
to be confident about the diagnosis.  It was also enough for us to go
ahead with the statementing process to a successful outcome.

Regards

Jean

 Referrals for Aspergers diagnosis go through medical channels. Sometimes
> it's the child's GP to CaMHs directly -- or GP to a peadiatrician -- who
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> peadiatrician). There are somtimes long waiting lists for and after
> referral -- and the diagnostic process can happen over several months.
> Only very likely cases are usually referred as there is care over not to
> over diagnosis -- or initiate?unneccessary assessments. In my area at
> least. If a teacher or LA EP is wishing?for a?referal -- parents must take
> the lead role -- they cannot be left out of the loop -- this is not an
> educational assessment -- it is mental health.?Brendan King
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> Hi Susie -  What were the procedures for Assessment for Aspergers?  I am
> thinking of having one pupil re-assessed - certainly traits of  Aspergers
> but seems to break most of the norms below e.g.     An extraordinarlily
> good rote memory for subjects that interest them -  yes  Reliability
> Dedication, loyalty   Attention to detail, precise and punctual   Honesty,
> no guile   Respect for rules - want to do the right thing   Original and
> creative thought patterns  - yes  May have a wide vocabulary   May revel
> in their difference   May find it easier than others to master the formal
> style required  forwriting academic essays and reports     Two yes' - will
> not commit to work in most subjects - very, very able  pupil -  Had him
> assessed by an Ed Psych and Ed Psych agrees with previous Ed  Psych
> 'check-off' list that he displays many of the characteristics of
> Aspergers...    Is it just our lack of knowledge or could this child be
> mis-diagnosed?  That is what we are asking and won
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>  ering what the next step should be  before - 2nd suspension from school
> shortly!    I am seeing an expert in autism next week to discuss - but
> want to move  on it  now.    Tks  Stuart         -----Original
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> [mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Susie
> Pinder  Sent: 11 November 2007 17:25  To: WrayJanice Wray; senco forum
> Subject: RE: [senco-forum] Life Skills and social communication skills
> inYr10/11 [Scanned]    This is exacatly where I am with a child in year
> 9.  His original  statement just said Autisitic Spectrum disorder and
> assocaoted  behavioural problems.     I have now had extensive
> assessments undertaken by an EP and SALT which  actually ideidntifies him
> as MLD.  This will account for the failed 2  placements prior to us.
> Both Boarding.     The problem is Mum insists on a Main school placement
> and won't even go  and look at schools in there London Borough.  (She
> drops him off on
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>  er  way to work.  we are 15 miles from his home).  I have no other stu
> dents at the same level.  Some of those who can't do  all GCSE's will do
> College for 1 day a week on a vocational course in  lieu of one option,
> but have to fit into the rest.       We are looking at running ASDAN main
> course and the one on Life Skills  for perhaps a selected group, but Eng,
> maths, science, and RE will still  be GCSE.     Can we put all our 1's
> togeher and teach them on-line?     Susie
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> senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk on behalf of WrayJanice  Wray
> Sent: Sat 10/11/2007 12:50  To: senco forum  Subject: [senco-forum] Life
> Skills and social communication skills in  Yr10/11 [Scanned]        I have
> a lad in Year 9 with a statement for speech and language.  I just can' t
> see how he is going to cope with our academic curriculum  at KS4 and we
> may have to look at the core subjects plus one option and  spend the other
> 6 hours a week doing life skills and social  communication skills.  I am
> gathering information and
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>  ay well go to special schools, units etc  locally and am calling in the
> E.P. and SEN Connexions lady for their  help.  BUT - it occurred to me
> that some of you might know of a resource in  these sorts of things, a
> book, a DVD, an online course or one you  already use which we could
> steal/adapt etc. I can see a scenario when  we 5 people in the SEN
> department work on these things with him in 1:1s  and take him out on
> visits etc - I am planning way ahead you see.  A college placement
> part-time might be a possibility too - not sure yet.  Thanks in advance
> for any advice.  JaniceJanice Wray Secondary SENCO, Herts
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