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I understand that from this year one of the dispensations allowed is an

I don't know what the proper word to use - but I've found that my daughters school puts children into groups for all of their literacy and numeracy sessions - they reckon that it's for 50% of the time.  My estimate is that it's more.  This is a year one class - my daughter is 5.  I'm having the conversation about her literacy needs as she seems to have some language and literacy difficulties - which is like d?j? vu as my oldest son (now 16) has (severe) dyslexia and is dyspraxic and has some language difficulties.  It was suggested that I could take her out of school and go the the Dyslexia Institute for some support!

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   1. RE: All Asperger's in one basket ??? (Richard Cook)
   2. language maths and examinations (kathy)
   3. Re: language maths and examinations (km gmail)
   4. Re: on behalf of mary mchugh - seeking help (Sonia Mannick)
   5. Channel 4 News 7.00 pm -- Feature on 'delegation SEN	funding
      schemes'  (kngbrndn at aol.com)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:29:30 -0000
From: "Richard Cook" <richard_cook at blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] All Asperger's in one basket ???
To: "barbara" <barbht at saqnet.co.uk>,	"'WrayJanice Wray'"
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Not sure it's a good idea.  In my lunchtime warhammer club the most time
consuming pupils are the four ASD boys who have no empathy or tolerence for
each other.

Richard

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To: 'WrayJanice Wray'; 'senco forum'
Subject: RE: [senco-forum] All Asperger's in one basket ???

Sounds like the easy option but ... Won't tolerance of rest of class be very
over stretched , won't they possibly be even more intolerant of each other
than 'neuro normals' would be and shouldn't more of the year group be
exposed to 'inclusion'
isn't this a chance to educate teaching staff and year group ?  Barbara ht

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Subject: [senco-forum] All Asperger's in one basket ???

We've got 3 lads with Aspergers - 2 with statements - one very low skills as
well - shall we put them all in the same Year 7 class ? Janice Wray
Secondary SENCO, Herts
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Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:45:57 -0000
From: "kathy" <kathy at saultlucia.plus.com>
Subject: [senco-forum] language maths and examinations
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I understand that from this year one of the dispensations allowed is an
"oral language modifier". It is not very clear yet exactly what this role
will involve but my understanding is that the adult can interpret the key
language in questions for the pupil as long as they record on the
dispensation sheet which words they have interpreted. I am hoping that this
may make a real difference for pupils with ASD and Speech and Lang
difficulties.

Kathy 

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Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:07:37 -0000
From: "km gmail" <kmhemmings at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [senco-forum] language maths and examinations
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My understanding is that the "carrier language" can be explained but the 
subject associated vocabulary cannot be changed or explained.  It also 
sounds as if training may be available for those intending to carry out this 
role.

Maria

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Subject: [senco-forum] language maths and examinations

>I understand that from this year one of the dispensations allowed is an
> "oral language modifier". It is not very clear yet exactly what this role
> will involve but my understanding is that the adult can interpret the key
> language in questions for the pupil as long as they record on the
> dispensation sheet which words they have interpreted. I am hoping that 
> this
> may make a real difference for pupils with ASD and Speech and Lang
> difficulties.
>
> Kathy
> 

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:42:38 +0400
From: "Sonia Mannick" <sonmannick at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [senco-forum] on behalf of mary mchugh - seeking help
To: Sheridan <sheridan.sharp1 at btinternet.com>,
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Hi I couldn't find Mary's address so I'm just replying directly to you and
the forum Sheridan.

I am currently working as SENCo in an International school in Mauritius and
assessment was only accessible to Psychologists a few years ago and should
the need arise for a student to be assessed, we used to recommend it to the
parents who would then decide to bring the child for an assessment usually
abroad to South Africa or UK. So reading your message reminds me how we
started here but the difference is that we don't have to translate tests it
would be even harder for you.

I have followed a distance learning course on assessment from real training
(The certificate of Competence in Educational Testing Level A).I only have
to submit a port folio to complete it now.It was really interesting and I
feel really confident in administering tests now.
I use the WRIT, WRAT 4 , some components of the Bangor Dyslexia test and
assessments I have downloaded from the Dyslexia Action Web site (recommended
by the forum). I am planning to buy the CTOPP next year.
For screening, we have decided what we wanted to assess and have designed
our own screening from different sources.This screening is given to our
students at entrance as a fun activity and is called "test your detective
skills" It in fact assesses observation skills, writing skills (Hand
writing,spelling , punctuation etc.), Maths skills, copying skills,
laterality , following instructions , fine motor coordination skills etc. We
then write short recommendations for teachers.We also have the SNAP that we
use sometimes.
I have also bought the CERIUM visual technologies overlays pack which
contains a test to check which coloured overlay suits best the SEN
student.We then either give the child that coloured overlay for use in class
or print any work on same coloured paper.
It took us some time but we are now more or less settled.Wish you all the
best Mary.
Regards
Sonia

On 11/22/07, Sheridan <sheridan.sharp1 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello ? if you have time please help.
>
> I tried to post the following message on the forum and I am not sure that
> it worked as I have not seen it or received a response.
>
> I would be greatful if you would acknowledge receipt - Many thanks Mary
>
>
> I am currently training teachers in Viet Nam. I would like to raise
> awareness of assessment screening and assessment tools. If you have
> samples
> of assessment screens / IQ tests/ and background information to support
> assessing and intervening I would be grateful.
>
>
> The teachers are working in a range of special and mainstream schools with
> pupils from 3- 16 years. Many of the pupils are hearing impaired but the
> needs are various. The curriculum is formal and there is limited support
> to
> teachers.
>
>
>
> I want to raise awareness of things for teachers to look for in
> constructing
> assessments they can use in their own classrooms and also support the
> teachers to understand how some children learn differently.
>
>
>
> I would also like to find information on assessing vision and hearing for
> non specialists.
>
>
>
> I realise this is a wide range of items but I want to raise a broad
> awareness and the material will need translating and editing for cultural
> relevance- action research potentially for the teachers. Potentially this
> will become a more significant project next year. If you would like
> further
> information please contact me.
> Mary
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:38:37 -0500
From: kngbrndn at aol.com
Subject: [senco-forum] Channel 4 News 7.00 pm -- Feature on
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A programme is on TV tonight -- a feature on Channel 4 News -- Effect of LA?Delegation funding Schemes on SEN. 7.00 pm approx. Brendan King

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