[senco-forum] music and SEN [Scanned]

From: Mary Kelly <mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com>

I run a 'rolling' timetable for the groups, 3 lessons on, 3 off, so over a fortnight they get about 5 lessons and it means they don't miss the same lessons every time. I also change their 'period' every term, rotating between 1st and 2nd.  It is easier to run than it sounds, but it still doesn't please everyone.  The only lesson I 'let them out' for is cookery practical...  

Maggie

--- On Sun, 20/4/08, Mary Kelly <mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> From: Mary Kelly <mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: RE: [senco-forum] music and SEN [Scanned]
> To: "'barbara horsfall turner'" <barbara.horsfall-turner at sky.com>, maizie2004 at yahoo.co.uk, senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk, "'lk s'" <lks1985 at hotmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, 20 April, 2008, 11:09 AM
> The only small suggestion I can offer is that we rotate our
> timetable every
> term so that children are not out of any given subject for
> more than a term
> at a time. But the down side of that is that they just get
> used to one
> timetable and then it changes again. Not perfect.
> Mary
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
> [mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf
> Of barbara
> horsfall turner
> Sent: 20 April 2008 10:47
> To: maizie2004 at yahoo.co.uk; senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk;
> 'lk s'
> Subject: Re: [senco-forum] music and SEN [Scanned]
> 
> When taking pupils out of lessons for intervention - they
> may have 5 hours =
> 5 lessons a fortnight my first consideration is -is kid
> going to be
> 'punished' by having loads of written work to copy
> up  (or even with the odd
> enlightened teacher - just to read thro) - that cuts out
> withdrawal from
> History, Geography, RE as being very note based!
> Next consideration is 'core subjects ' - so
> can't take them out of Maths or
> Science (despite them begging to come out of these)
> 
> I will take them out of one MFL lesson, one Welsh lesson,
> and English
> library lesson but these don't always fit with my fixed
> timetable points
> -(year 7,8 and 9 small 'literacy' classes have
> actual timetabled lessons in
> which there will be 4/5 pupils already).
> 
> That leaves DT, Art PE Music and our new timetabled delight
> Key Skills (
> replaces PSHE)
> 
> When you look at years 10 and 11 who have dropped an option
> (also fixed
> timetable slots) and then try and fit in all the kids with
> 10, 5, 2 and 1
> lesson a fortnight it becomes the nightmare that Maggie
> mentions
> 
> So yes I do appear to target these soft subjects that for
> many are their
> favourite lessons - I will negotiate if I possbily can so
> that kid doesn't
> come out of eg Art if they're a budding van gogh or
> music if they're really
> good at it. Equally even when timetabled by me to come out
> of eg PE ( and I
> happen to believe that all kids should be doing more not
> less PE!) if the
> kid puts a case for this 'one of ' lesson I usually
> agree (no point after
> all in trying to teach the unwilling)
> 
> If anyone has a better way of seeing 50 or more kids over a
> fortnight within
> the constraints of secondary timetable in small groups
> I'd love to know how
> they do it 
> Barbara ht   
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk
> [mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf
> Of Maggie Downie
> Sent: 20 April 2008 10:12
> To: senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk; lk s
> Subject: Re: [senco-forum] music and SEN [Scanned]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 20/4/08, lk s <lks1985 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> . My own daughter was actually taken out of
> > recorder lessons as well for 'catch-up'
> reading (and art and P.E. when 
> > I come to think of it, all the things she actually
> enjoyed!)
> 
> I wouldn't try to see anything sinister in this, lks. 
> It is an absolute
> nightmare timetabling 'withdrawal' and sometimes it
> seems to be policy to
> avoid taking children from 'academic' subjects
> wherever possible. I'm not
> defending that policy!  
> 
> I find that most children hate being withdrawn from PE,
> Art, Technology &
> IT.  They are not in the least bit concerned about missing
> Core & Foundation
> subjects.  They mostly don't mind missing Music,
> either, I'm afraid...
> 
> Maggie
> 
> 
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