[senco-forum] (no subject) now "new SEN stages and Cof P"

fascinating! is this legal? How do you decide how many +s?
  We continue to have a 2 prong (and contradictory) approach in my LEA.
  On the one hand you have the county wide "moderation criteria" - laying out what a child should be "having difficulty with" to be at SA or SA+. Very detailed for each SEN and highly useful - although not nec legal either, as PROGRESS (or lack of )is the criteria according to the Cof P, not absolute levels. Look at the past postings on the grief suffered by Gifted SPLd children under this system. 
  On the other hand you have the relative, resources led approach. A child can only be at School Action if the school is some action. (so if coping, with differentiation in a low ability cohort then not at SA) or if v poor but not seen EP because no time left then not at SAP!!
  I stick with the moderation criteria ,as I refuse to let children's SEN be defined by available resources. So if a child is waiting to see the EP  I put them to SAP! Apart from the philosophy , I need a way to label children that shows me who is in greatest need, not who is receiving most services. Of course in an ideal world the two would be the same!
  Kate

  kngbrndn at aol.com wrote:
  Is Wales now under its own different SEN law now Jean? Or is this a 'jumping the gun' introduction of the new Welsh non-statementing system??

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From: barbara 

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Ceredigion has currently SA SA+ SA++ ( enhanced ) and is about to have another tier SA+++ For SA++ county does stipulate the equivalent of 1/2 hour a day (5 hours a fortnight for those of you mathematically challenged) in groups of no more than 4 -but as you'll know in secondary its how the timetable falls so may well be larger mixed age as well as stage of learning groups and other lessons have only 2 whilst the unfavourable timetable leaves us scratching around to put another pupil or so in Barbara ht -----Original Message----- From: senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk [mailto:senco-forum-bounces at lists.becta.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jean Dowding Sent: 09 February 2008 12:55 To: Janrolnick at aol.com Cc: senco-forum at lists.becta.org.uk Subject: Re: [senco-forum] (no subject) This seems to me to have been dreamt up by the LA concerned. There is no mention in the CoP about time allocation and the LA I worked for only stipulated support time in Statements. It was up to an
 individual school to offer the support for SA and SA+ according to need and resources. But then, I have heard of LAs who have invented a stage between SA+ and statementing (has various names, from SA++ to SA+ Extra), presumably to avoid statementing, which requires them to provide something that is legally binding. Regards Jean I went for a statement recently and was told by my LEA that we should be > putting 10hrs in place for SA+. This si obviously ludicrous - if you > multiply the number of pupils at SA+ by ten hrs it would take up all > our TA time - forgetting children with statements, EAL, and other > needs! I too would be interested in the outcome of this one. > > > Janice Rolnick > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by SAQNET SpamAlizer www.saq.co.uk, and is believed to be clean. No virus
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