[senit] video editing

thanks Sean , I have just tried it. Was quite easy to

Hi David,

sorry to delay reply but I've been on a residential trip this week.

Firstly, yes, it's our pupils on the 'Sing a Rainbow' clip - pretty  
cheesy but Kudlian are just up the road from us in Warwickshire and  
wanted a quick demo, and felt that it would be of interest to see  
pupils in a special school as an example of signing. Since most of  
our signing tends to be at 1 or 2 word level, a song seemed the best  
way of showing a sequence of signs.

Anyway, yes, as you've found, getting into this level of video  
editing work does require forward planning for timings etc, but if  
you're storyboarding with the pupils there can be some opportunities  
to get a few of them thinking about timing and so on.
I haven't come across the autorepeat issue you mentioned - I'll try  
and find out.

As far as the soundtrack goes, yes, iMovie works on the assumption  
that you're trying to keep a smooth main soundtrack, and are simply  
adding visuals to support that or enhance it. If you want to add a  
voiceover to the whole thing that's still very easy to do - just go  
to the Media tab, click on Audio, and you'll see the red record  
button to record yourself (or pupils) speaking live over the video as  
it plays. In our example, there's no intentional audio on the signed  
bit anyway - the idea was to focus on the visual signing and leave  
the original audio there so that all the signing does is hopefully  
help our children to key into the song and have a chance of joining in.
I appreciate that depending on your context, you may need to cut out  
the original sound and replace it with a clear narration that is  
entirely in sync with the signing - but I'd have that if so then it  
might simply be worth swapping the video roles over: make the signed  
and spoken track the main one, and drop the 'content' bit in as the  
picture in picture.

Best,
Sean

Sean O'Sullivan
sean.frankwise at easynet.co.uk
Deputy Headteacher
Frank Wise School, Banbury
http://www.frankwise.oxon.sch.uk

http://www.parkroadict.co.uk

On 7 May 2007, at 20:28, david fettes wrote:

> thanks Sean , I have just tried it. Was quite easy to
> get a symbol into a clip in imovie, but harder to
> insert a signed movie (.mov) into a clip on i movie.
> issues that needed consideration included;
> obviously when insert .mov (signed movie) to imovie
> clip (action movie) the .mov has to be shorter than
> the imovie clip which measn attention needs to be paid
> when filming to length of action clips
> and signed clips. action clips may need to be slowed
> down and exagerated.
> however if signed clip to insert is much shorter than
> the imovie action clip it seems to
> autorepeat the signed . mov. so you need to set where
> in the imovie clip you want it to start/finish and it
> is hard to do this accurately . the imovie help file
> says use the crop markers to set the place where movie
> effect is to start and finish crop markers but you
> still need to know the length of the movie being
> inserted and then leave that length gap in the host
> imovie clip using the crop markers.
> It seemed to be very time consuming to insert a
> sentence of signing describing the action in each i
> movie clip.The help file is rather basic and there is
> not any help on the kudlian website. Is there any more
> detailed help available elsewhere? The other issue is
> that the result was the retention of the original
> imovie sound track with the inserted .mov movie losing
> its sound and I couldn't see how to alter this. Eg
> what If I sign and speak the narration- and want the
> background action silent? I supppose I could do it in
> reverse and have me signing as the main movie and
> insert a window showing the students action movie. Is
> the example clip of students singing rainbow song
> yours? it looks like the same thing happens there ie
> the main movie singing is preserved and the signed
> inset window is silent?
> cheers
> david
>
> --- Sean O'Sullivan <sean.frankwise at easynet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Yep,
>>
>> on the Mac in iMovie you can get a plug in from
>> Kudlian called
>> Essential tools for iLife:
>> http://www.kudlian.net/products/essential/
>>
>> We used it to pop a small video of a pupil signing
>> the key words of a
>> song that a group of pupils were singing in the main
>> picture. Sad to
>> say we haven't made much more use of it but there's
>> loads you could
>> do - the example video on Kudlian's site is worth
>> watching for some
>> ideas. It's £30 for a single licence or £300 for a
>> whole site.
>> There's some really good other stuff on there too.
>>
>>
>> Sean O'Sullivan
>> sean.frankwise at easynet.co.uk
>> Deputy Headteacher
>> Frank Wise School, Banbury
>> http://www.frankwise.oxon.sch.uk
>>
>> http://www.parkroadict.co.uk
>>
>>
>> On 2 May 2007, at 20:01, david fettes wrote:
>>
>>> hi is it possible to dub a video of somone signing
>>> onto another video so that the dubbed sign
>> narrated
>>> video eg in one corner, can narrate what is
>> happening
>>> in the main video as is done on See Hear and
>> similar
>>> programmes? How can you do it on PC or Mac?
>>> cheers
>>> David