[senit] Flash, Jam, Crash was: Write your own art software in SLD

Geoff,

mandy,

I take your, point, however repurposing is something common to many  
teachers.
it's a fine line from repurposing to authoring.

from my own experience, our students travel in a green bus, so a red  
bus graphic works better if re-painted, this may or may not be  
possible, depending on your skills and the technology.

in gifs and jpegs it's possible, but difficult to do well, in SVG  
it's usually trivially easy.

Ian, if I remember correctly is well known for his creative and  
original work.

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regards

Jonathan Chetwynd
Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet

On 22 Nov 2007, at 11:35, Mandy Griffin wrote:

Well said Ian. I feel this subject has run and run and appears to be
getting a little tetchy.
Mandy

----Original Message----
From: Ian at inclusive.co.uk
Date: 22/11/2007 11:28
To: <senit at lists.becta.org.uk>, <senit at lists.becta.org.uk>
Subj: RE: [senit] Flash, Jam, Crash was: Write your own art software
in SLD

I strongly suspect that the decision to pull much of the content from
the BBC websites you quote had more to do with the BBC overstepping
their brief than with the choice of tools they used.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/news/press_releases/14_03_2007.html

Seems to me some of us are missing the point here. The original
question was asking for recommendations for useful art packages and as
always, colleagues posted some good websites and names of applications
they had found useful in the classroom. To suggest that people go away
and write their own software is in my view unhelpful and risks
alienating teachers who are already working hard to integrate
technology into their classroom practice. It's a bit like me wanting a
new car and a mechanic telling me that I can have the spanners for free
if I make my own. The biggest percentage of teachers dont have the
skills to design and program their own applications and most don't want
or need to learn how.

Best Wishes.

Ian

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Sent: Thu 22/11/2007 10:08
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SLD

Geoff,

just one other example, the BBC's Jam or digital curriculum project.
most if not all in flash, at a cost of tens of millions of pounds and
pulled earlier this year at short notice.

Had this been open, and public domain or other cc license it is most
unlikely this work would have gone to waste.

regards

Jonathan Chetwynd
Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet

On 22 Nov 2007, at 08:58, Geoff Dellow wrote:

Jonathan,

I cannot accept your negative approach.

If you find a precious flower , you nurture it,

especially if it something you will never see the like of again.

I don't believe that SVG , though an excellent concept, will ever
generate something like Flash 4 unless this software is its source.
If it does then what's the problem - there will be a replacement for
Flash 4!

There is an unfortunate attitude that commerce is not to be trusted,
the idea of paying a reasonable amount for a good product is to be
commended.

There will always be 'good people' who will want to do something that
works well enough to make enough money for the business to survive
and function well for the benefit of others.

The fact that many global businesses are set on money making as an
end in itself, does not mean that others operate with the same
philosophy.

Teachers that have been in business and know the feeling of running a
satisfying business - as I have - will agree I suspect.

Flash 4 is available at the moment with no more requirements than
your input of time and enthusiasm - Grab it with both hands - gently .

http://www.tygh.co.uk/christmas

You'll meet a lot of very positive people

http://flashteachers.blogspot.com <http://flashteachers.blogspot.
com/>

Geoff

On 21 Nov 2007, at 17:20, ~:'' ????????????
wrote:

> Geoff,
>
> one of the most significant issues with unsupported software, is
> that it may not work fairly soon.
> but more than this, it wont integrate with present or future
> technologies.
> this means one is building in obsolescence, anything produced is
> already out of date.
> SVG being open, doesn't have this issue, it already integrates well
> with social networks, online games  and more.
>

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